Nitesh Bhat commented: I don't have the realisation but what I have understood from
srila prabhupada books is that the jiva never really falls from
Vaikuntha. Jiva's who wanted to enjoy separately from krshna, krshna
created the material world for them within the spritual sky. So all of
us are actually present in some corner of the spritual sky. But as
prabhupada said, a person stuck in a well should be more concerned about
getting out of the well instead of how he got their. When we will meet krshna all our questions will be answered.
Meena Devi Dasi
Yes. The material world as a prison house. I cannot accept that I was
ever anything other than a person at any time... that my personhood was
ever created or that it will ever end. I can be put into illusion and
forgetfulness however.
"Never was there a time when I did not exist,
nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease
to be." BG 2.12
There is no such thing as a beginning to anything in
the spiritual energy. So just from that "realization" alone the
argument that some present that our personality is "created" is
immediately thrown out.
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