Regarding a post about Srila Prabhupada's disappearance.....
Devotee comment:
Prabhupāda: "His real education would begin. The first thing is to understand that you are a spirit soul. And because you are a spirit soul, you are changing your body. This is the ABC of spiritual understanding. So, when your body is finished, annihilated, you are not finished."
"Therefore, a devotee who engages in the service of the Supreme Lord and who constantly thinks of Him should never be considered to have a material body. It is therefore enjoined, guruṣu nara-matiḥ: one should stop thinking of the spiritual master as an ordinary human being with a material body. Arcye viṣṇau śilā-dhīḥ: everyone knows that the Deity in the temple is made of stone, but to think that the Deity is merely stone is an offense. Similarly, to think that the body of the spiritual master consists of material ingredients is offensive. Atheists think that devotees foolishly worship a stone statue as God and an ordinary man as the guru. The fact is, however, that by the grace of Kṛṣṇa's omnipotence, the so-called stone statue of the Deity is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the body of the spiritual master is directly spiritual."
Prabhupāda: "His real education would begin. The first thing is to understand that you are a spirit soul. And because you are a spirit soul, you are changing your body. This is the ABC of spiritual understanding. So, when your body is finished, annihilated, you are not finished."
"Therefore, a devotee who engages in the service of the Supreme Lord and who constantly thinks of Him should never be considered to have a material body. It is therefore enjoined, guruṣu nara-matiḥ: one should stop thinking of the spiritual master as an ordinary human being with a material body. Arcye viṣṇau śilā-dhīḥ: everyone knows that the Deity in the temple is made of stone, but to think that the Deity is merely stone is an offense. Similarly, to think that the body of the spiritual master consists of material ingredients is offensive. Atheists think that devotees foolishly worship a stone statue as God and an ordinary man as the guru. The fact is, however, that by the grace of Kṛṣṇa's omnipotence, the so-called stone statue of the Deity is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the body of the spiritual master is directly spiritual."
Meena Devi Dasi:
The mood of separation is not material. What you are saying is impersonal.
The mood of separation is not material. What you are saying is impersonal.
Devotee comment:
I agree with you mataji Meena Devi Dasi .. i never spoke of seperation being material .. i was referring specifically to your comments concerning " we will not see Prabhupada again ..the person that smile".... that is impersonalism... Prabhupada is not the Vapu form
I agree with you mataji Meena Devi Dasi .. i never spoke of seperation being material .. i was referring specifically to your comments concerning " we will not see Prabhupada again ..the person that smile".... that is impersonalism... Prabhupada is not the Vapu form
Meena Devi Dasi:
Where is the separation then if we do not see like this? And indeed He is gone...
Where is the separation then if we do not see like this? And indeed He is gone...
Devotee comment:
The seperation is a lila pastime.... just like the gopis feeling seperation from Krsna made them more absorbed in Krsna not less so... so spiritually there is no seperation .. you are looking at these issues from a material vision ...
The seperation is a lila pastime.... just like the gopis feeling seperation from Krsna made them more absorbed in Krsna not less so... so spiritually there is no seperation .. you are looking at these issues from a material vision ...
Meena Devi Dasi:
No I am not. You are looking this materially and projecting onto me.
No I am not. You are looking this materially and projecting onto me.
Devotee comment:
Ok if thats what you think mataji fine.. im not here to get into an ego debate with you ..
Ok if thats what you think mataji fine.. im not here to get into an ego debate with you ..
Meena Devi Dasi:
Oh I wasn't sure
When you cry real tears come back we will discuss this more.
Oh I wasn't sure
When you cry real tears come back we will discuss this more.
Devotee comment:
Who says I don't cry real tears ?
Prabhupada " In the transcendental platform, actually separation is more relishable than meeting. But either separation or meeting, the state is always absolute. Actually in the spiritual platform, there is no separation, but it is a different stages of rasas"
Who says I don't cry real tears ?
Prabhupada " In the transcendental platform, actually separation is more relishable than meeting. But either separation or meeting, the state is always absolute. Actually in the spiritual platform, there is no separation, but it is a different stages of rasas"
Meena Devi Dasi:
Then you should be able to understand. But not crying because of feeling fallen but crying because of separation. There is a diffence. But tears for any reason connected to Krishna are always welcome.
Then you should be able to understand. But not crying because of feeling fallen but crying because of separation. There is a diffence. But tears for any reason connected to Krishna are always welcome.
Devotee comment:
Yes that is very nice crying in feeling of seperation from the Lord... This process was recommended by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ...
Prabhupada " Caitanya Mahāprabhu is teaching this. Yugāyitaṁ nimeṣeṇa cakṣuṣā prāvṛṣāyitam: "I am feeling one moment as a millenium, being separated from Kṛṣṇa. And the torrents of tears are coming just like torrents of rain." And śūnyāyitaṁ jagat sarvam: "And the whole world is seeming to Me vacant," govinda-viraheṇa me, "being separated from Govinda." This is love.
Yes that is very nice crying in feeling of seperation from the Lord... This process was recommended by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ...
Prabhupada " Caitanya Mahāprabhu is teaching this. Yugāyitaṁ nimeṣeṇa cakṣuṣā prāvṛṣāyitam: "I am feeling one moment as a millenium, being separated from Kṛṣṇa. And the torrents of tears are coming just like torrents of rain." And śūnyāyitaṁ jagat sarvam: "And the whole world is seeming to Me vacant," govinda-viraheṇa me, "being separated from Govinda." This is love.
Meena Devi Dasi:
Prabhupada is teaching this.
Prabhupada is teaching this.
Devotee comment:
Yes jaya Srila Prabhupada
Hare Krsna mataji
Yes jaya Srila Prabhupada
Hare Krsna mataji
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