Discussion on guru tattva:
Devotee comment:
"Although according to material vision His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarsavati Thakura Prabhupada passed away from this material world on the last day of December 1936, I still consider his Divine Grace to be always present with me by his vani, his words . There are two ways of association - by vani and by vapuh. Vani means words and vapuh means physical presence . Physical presence is sometimes appreciable and sometimes not, but Vani continues to exist eternally. Therefore, one must take advantage of the Vani, not the physical presence. (CC, Antya 5 Conclusion) Therefore we should take advantage of the Vani, not the physical presence. (Letter to Suci Devi Dasi, 4/11/75) I shall remain your personal guidance, physically present or not physically present, as I am getting guidance from my Guru Maharaja. (Room Conversation, Vrindavan, 14/7/77)
"Although according to material vision His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarsavati Thakura Prabhupada passed away from this material world on the last day of December 1936, I still consider his Divine Grace to be always present with me by his vani, his words . There are two ways of association - by vani and by vapuh. Vani means words and vapuh means physical presence . Physical presence is sometimes appreciable and sometimes not, but Vani continues to exist eternally. Therefore, one must take advantage of the Vani, not the physical presence. (CC, Antya 5 Conclusion) Therefore we should take advantage of the Vani, not the physical presence. (Letter to Suci Devi Dasi, 4/11/75) I shall remain your personal guidance, physically present or not physically present, as I am getting guidance from my Guru Maharaja. (Room Conversation, Vrindavan, 14/7/77)
"Reception of spiritual knowledge is never checked by any material condition" (SB 7.7.1, purport) "The potency of transcendental sound is never minimised because the vibrator is apparently absent" (SB 2.9.8, purport) "So although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the Spiritual Master, vibration. What we have heard from the Spiritual Master, that is living" (Lecture, 13/1/69, LA)
Meena Devi Dasi:
Yes of course. For the disciple.
Srila Prabhupada was always seeing His Spiritual Master.
And when we read Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati's books
by the grace of our spiritual master
we can also feel Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati's presence.
Yes of course. For the disciple.
Srila Prabhupada was always seeing His Spiritual Master.
And when we read Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati's books
by the grace of our spiritual master
we can also feel Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati's presence.
But there is something that cannot be ignored or minimized
since it is a significant occurrence.
The disappearance of the spiritual master.
A guru does not give diksa after His disappearance.
And without diksa the connection to the sampradaya is not actually made.
since it is a significant occurrence.
The disappearance of the spiritual master.
A guru does not give diksa after His disappearance.
And without diksa the connection to the sampradaya is not actually made.
There are lessons that cannot be learned "simply" by reading the book.
There is a system of Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya.
Srila Prabhupada did not change that.
After His disappearance it is not possible to be initiated by Him.
Unless a person is aligned properly
they have no real authority to instruct others.
They can quote verses all night and all day,
but they are not situated properly.
There is a system of Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya.
Srila Prabhupada did not change that.
After His disappearance it is not possible to be initiated by Him.
Unless a person is aligned properly
they have no real authority to instruct others.
They can quote verses all night and all day,
but they are not situated properly.
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